Intolerance for LGBTQ rights stops at church doors

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Last month, the U.S. Senate passed the Justice for Victims of Lynching Act of 2018, which makes it a federal crime to injure or murder a person “because of the actual or perceived religion, national origin, gender, sexual orientation, gender identity, or disability of any person.” The bill seems like a reasonable idea unless you belong to Liberty Counsel, an advocacy group whose message is based on conservative Christianity. Liberty Counsel is intolerant of the LGBTQ movement and views the media as a threat.

Liberty Counsel chair Mat Staver sees the bill as an opening for the LGBTQ community to gain more rights. “The old saying is once that camel gets the nose in the tent, you can’t stop them from coming the rest of the way in,” Staver said. “And this would be the first time that you would have in federal law mentioning gender identity and sexual orientation as part of this anti-lynching bill.”

Stated another way, Staver doesn’t want the LGBTQ community to be treated like everyone else.

Jonathan Alexandre, director of public policy for Liberty Counsel, criticized the media for creating the “false narrative” that Liberty Counsel opposes a ban on lynching members of the LGBTQ community. While he stated clearly that Liberty Counsel opposes anyone being lynched, Alexandre said nothing about Staver’s concern about LGBTQ people having the same civil rights as the straight community.

I appreciate that different faith traditions may have different views on how the LGBTQ community fits into their system of beliefs. I may not agree with those groups, but it’s their right to hold whatever religious beliefs they choose.  What I don’t understand is how any group can justify the idea that a LGBTQ person doesn’t deserve the same civil rights as anyone else. When it comes to civil law, it’s our humanity that counts, not one’s sexual identity.

Liberty Counsel doesn’t recognize that civil law doesn’t have to mirror religious views. Ours is not a theocracy, but Liberty Counsel views all things through a religious lens, as evidenced by its view on marriage:

“Civil institutions do not create marriage nor can they manufacture a right to marry for those who are incapable of marriage. No civil institution, including any court, has authority to redefine marriage any more than it can redefine gravity. Redefining the institution of marriage is improper and outside the authority of the government. The institutions of civil government should defend marriage and not seek to undermine it.”

I don’t know the basis for Liberty Counsel saying government does not have the right to determine who can marry. Government absolutely has the right to define the laws by which we live—it’s part of the societal contract—and, generally, those laws are aligned with the morals taught by most faith traditions, but sometimes there’s a variance, as with marriage.

Government can permit gays to marry in civil ceremonies, and Liberty Counsel has the right to prohibit gay marriage within its faith tradition. But Liberty Counsel’s objection to civil rights for gays stops at the church doors.

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Jack D’Aurora writes for Considerthisbyjd.com

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  1. Bill Heer  January 22, 2019

    I’m not sure of your point; or, perhaps, I am uncomfortable with it. Are you arguing against religiously based political action groups? Are you arguing only against conservative religiously based political action groups? Or are you arguing only in favor of lgbtq civil rights? I am completely with you on the third item, but the first two offend my belief in free speech. You seem to be arguing that religion shouldn’t venture beyond the church door. That I cannot subscribe to, even if the views expressed offend me.

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    • jdaurora@behallaw.com  January 23, 2019

      My point is simple (though, apparently not communicated as clearly as I had hoped): It’s wrong to deny someone’s civil rights based on your religious beliefs. As a side issue (and not expressed in the post), I frown on groups that use the Bible as justification for their positions. The Bible should be used for spiritual discernment, not as rational for one’s agenda.

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      • Bill Heer  January 23, 2019

        Why do you need to add “because of their religious beliefs”? Do you mean to say “religious beliefs are not a valid reason to deny civil rights”? Maybe I’m raising a distinction without a difference. I just found your original argument as hinting at being anti the 1st amendment rights of a group with which you disagree. I’m all for calling out their hypocrisy, I just didnt like the suggestion that their free speech rights ended outside the church.

        BTW, I’m very pro civil rights, including sexuality and sexual orientation. But we are nothing if we lose our 1st amendment rights.

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        • jdaurora@behallaw.com  January 26, 2019

          I think the issue between us is perhaps one of perspective. Do I believe Liberty Counsel has the right to state in public that the members of the LGBTQ should not have the same rights as others? Yes. Does Liberty Counsel have the right to verbally bash the LGBTQ community in public? Regrettably, yes. Is Liberty Counsel–I’m trying to be careful here–misguided to think that civil law should deprive members of the LGBT! community certain civil rights because of the religious tenets Liberty Counsel holds dear? No.

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  2. Ben Zambito  January 23, 2019

    The world needs more people like you, Jack. Thanks for sharing this.

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    • jdaurora@behallaw.com  January 23, 2019

      Thank you, Ben, but I can think of a number of people who would disagree with you.

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  3. Jim Cowardin  January 23, 2019

    If the Liberty Counsel said and means what you say they said and mean, then they are wrong. I wonder then how two senators can question the qualifications of a judge, because he is a member of the Knights of Columbus. It seems as though tolerance should go in both directions.

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    • jdaurora@behallaw.com  January 23, 2019

      I’m not familiar with two senators taking issue with a judge’s membership in the KoC. Regardless, I’m with you. Tolerance has to go both ways.

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  4. Stephen Courts  January 27, 2019

    Jack, I frequently wear a long sleeve shirt that quotes my idol, President John F. Kennedy. The quote reads: “I believe in an America where the separation of church and state is absolute,” Invariably I have complimentary remarks that praise this quote from JFK. In 1960 while running for president he gave a speech before a religious audience in Houston regarding state affairs and his Roman Catholic faith.

    That speech calmed the skeptics of non-Catholics towards a Roman Catholic presidential candidate. Religious men and women of every faith throughout the country were instrumental in the Cicvil Rights movement and the subsequent enactment of voter rights and the beginning of anti-discrimination legislation. This was absolutely their finest moment. Were it I just these two subjects I would be supportive. A decade later, evangelicals sprouted and have been the strongest anti-choice and anti-LBGTQQ voices in America. They would like to return to back alley abortions. The belief that overturning Roe vs. Wade will end abortions is delusional. My position is these bible thumpers should be putting more time and efforts towards ending proverty and helping millions of abused and neglected children. Once children are born they ere frequently disregarded by thee evangelicals. Religious men and women do great work in our communities. I am not ignoring the subject but trying to add some additional perspective to religion and the position of evangelicals. Thank you for a poignant essay and for providing this forum.

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    • jdaurora@behallaw.com  January 29, 2019

      I was just a kid when Kennedy was elected, and so I have a vague recollection of the controversy that surrounded him because he was Catholic. Though I am too am Catholic, because I was just a kid, I didn’t understand what the hoopla was all about.

      The evangelical movement is a strange thing. It’s remarkable how evangelists can support a man whose morals violate every principle they stand for simply because they like his position on abortion and they want a more conservative U.S. Supreme Court. When you overlook a leader’s personal lack of integrity, bad things happen.

      Great to have you as a reader, Stephen.

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